Creating a new Income Stream using Prosper

by pfincome · 17 comments

in High Yield Investments

Over the past few weeks, I have read several blog posts questioning the risk vs. reward in peer-to-peer lending. One article I read on Enginero.com asks for others opinions on their experience loaning out money using these “micro-loans”. I decided that I would write an article on my brief experience in the peer-to-peer lending world.

One of my goals for 2008 was to create two new income streams other than my day-to-day job. As a result, back in January I opened up an account on Prosper.com in an attempt to create a new income stream. I opened the account with an initial $250 investment with the intent of funding 5 different $50 loans. At that time, I was learning the process of bidding on loans and was not concerned about what type of loans to bid on. I then setup an automatic withdraw of $25 each week from my bank account with the goal of funding 2 new $50 loans per month. In February, I decided to invest an additional $1,000 into my Prosper account to quickly build up my portfolio.

As of today (May 21, 2008), I have funded 38 total loans with an average credit grade of ‘B’ at an average rate of 16.4%. I have had success so far in the first 5 months of bidding, with only having an issue on 1 funded loan. The 1 late loan that has been an issue is currently in collections. I have also had 2 of the 38 loans already paid off. Below is a chart of my 38 loans that have been funded in my Prosper account:

Origination Date Title Credit Grade Lender Rate Debt To Income Loan Status Winning Amount
1/9/2008 paying off high interst medical debt A 14.00% 35% Current $50.00
1/15/2008 Rapidly Growing Cash Machine Business A 14.95% 33% Current $50.00
1/16/2008 pay off credit cards and buy car A 14.25% 37% Current $50.00
1/24/2008 Paying for college C 23.00% 81% Payoff in progress $50.00
1/30/2008 new equipment, expand operations B 20.00% 6% Current $51.59
1/30/2008 Paying off my credit card debt from Pepperdine University A 14.75% 24% 1 month late $50.00
2/6/2008 Pay off %30 intrest cc and home improvment previous borrower C 18.00% 38% Current $50.00
2/12/2008 Internet Consultant Consolidates Debt “A” Credit!! No DQ’s!! A 15.74% 45% Current $50.00
2/12/2008 consolidating business debt and buying inventory C 20.00% >100% Current $50.00
2/19/2008 Trying the borrowing side AA 6.90% 2% Current $50.00
2/19/2008 reinvest in prosper check out lending side AA 6.84% 10% Current $50.00
2/19/2008 Certification Training Needed AA 8.00% 8% Current $50.00
2/20/2008 Reinvesting in Prosper – Trial AA 7.00% 1% Current $50.00
2/20/2008 Pay off and close high interest Credit Cards!! C 21.72% 24% Current $50.00
2/20/2008 Prosper Reinvest – 0 Risk – 2nd Round of Funding A 6.00% 9% Current $50.00
2/20/2008 Re-Investing in Prosper A 13.50% 32% Current $50.00
2/22/2008 end high interest debt A 11.95% 42% Current $50.00
2/25/2008 End my High Interest Credit Cards C 19.29% 28% Current $50.00
2/25/2008 Help me start 2008 off right C 14.00% 13% Current $50.00
2/26/2008 Investing in Prosper Loans A 6.90% 16% Current $50.00
2/27/2008 Safe Investment A 35.00% 0% Payoff in progress $50.00
2/29/2008 Money to Fix House Such as Windows/Tile/Driveway C 17.00% 5% Current $50.00
3/10/2008 Consolidate credit cards/pay off high interest loan C 13.75% 28% Current $50.00
3/11/2008 Consolidating Credit Card Debt D 34.92% 25% Current $50.00
3/11/2008 Paying off Credit Cards C 15.15% 26% Current $50.00
3/17/2008 paying off credit cards and high interest loans C 21.25% 27% Current $50.00
3/20/2008 Paying off my credit cards D 15.50% 9% Current $50.00
3/24/2008 Reinvest in Prosper B 11.33% 7% Current $85.00
3/28/2008 Let’s show Discover Card the door (excellen payment history) C 15.15% 28% Current $50.00
4/1/2008 Paying Revolving Credit C 22.00% 23% Current $50.00
4/10/2008 Paying down high interest credit cards C 17.45% 20% Current $50.00
4/15/2008 Paying of credit cards C 20.80% 40% Current $50.00
4/16/2008 The banks are robbing ME!! Credit Card Interest is too high! B 12.40% 24% Current $50.00
4/18/2008 Teacher/Mother Wants To Consolidate Debt C 21.00% 35% Current $50.00
4/25/2008 Help me fix my mistake…Paying off my credit cards C 19.00% 35% Current $50.00
5/6/2008 OK, let me try again! No Jail this time! D 18.69% 32% Current $50.00
5/14/2008 Please help be the icing on my cake! C 21.00% 44% Current $50.00
5/21/2008 Need help getting ahead C 22.69% 33% Current $50.00

After settling in with Prosper, I realized that I needed to focus my bidding on specific types of loans that would fit into my risk tolerance. It is my opinion that the Credit Grade alone is not enough criteria to bid on loans. In fact, the one loan that has been an issue in my portfolio has an ‘A’ credit grade. I put together a saved query in my account that I use daily to search out and bid on loans.

  • Credit Grades = AA, A, B, C, D – I filter on all credit grade loans other than ‘E’ and ‘HR’ loans. I am fine with bidding on ‘C’ and ‘D’ credit grade loans under certain circumstances.
  • Loan Category = Debt consolidation – I now have decided that I will only bid on loans that are focused on debt consolidation. I want to help people who are trying to get out of debt. Most of these loans involve people who are trying to consolidate their multiple credit cards into one monthly payment with a combined lower interest rate.
  • Debt income ratio = 0% – 50% – I won’t bid on any loans where the debt to income ratio is above 50%. Basically, I want to make sure the people are bringing in enough money to pay their bill.
  • Loan Amount = $0 – $15,000 – I stay away from any loan that is over $15,000. Any figure above that scares me and I won’t touch it. My screen is setup to include loans up to $15,000 but I use discretion on loans above $10,000.
  • %Funded = 50% – 100% – I will only bid on loans that have a high probability of being funded. Any loan under 50% funded either stands a good chance of not being funded or has several more days to stay open. I was frustrated when first starting out as I bid on some loans that never got funded or had been open for several days. These types of bids hold your money up for several days while most of them never get funded.
  • Delinquencies in last 7y = 0 to 2 – I give people the benefit of past mistakes and allow up to 2 delinquencies in the past 7 years. Anything over 2 will not be included in my screening process.
  • Public records (in last 10y) = 0 – Basically, this criteria says that I will never bid on anyone who has declared bankruptcy in the past.
  • Rate = 15% or higher – This is actually not included in my search criteria as I want to see all available listings to bid on. However, my goal is to bid on loans above 15%, generally falling into the 15% – 20% category. I also get suspicious of loans above 20% and the ability for people to pay them off.

As you may note, some of the loans in my portfolio don’t match the criteria defined above. I have modified the types of loans that I now bid on after becoming familiar with the Prosper lending process. In addition, on some occasions, I may bid on ‘AA’ or ‘A’ credit grade loans that don’t meet the criteria defined above that are under $5,000. Typically these loans are for people who want to reinvest in Prosper by taking out a loan for a certain percentage and then use the proceeds to fund other loans at a higher rate. I am willing to bid lower for these types of loans as they are not as risky in nature.

Do you have a Prosper account? If so, what type of success/failures have you experienced? Please take the time to vote in the poll found below. If not, have you ever considered opening one up?

Article written by John

Hi, I am John and I run PassiveFamilyincome.com. I am a father of two wonderful boys and am married to a great wife. Each and every day I am working to build passive income streams so that I can eventually leave my job and spend more time with my family! You can find me on Twitter - @PFIncome!

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1 Ralph May 22, 2008 at 11:08 am

What an awesome post!!! Thank you very much for sharing your experiences. It’s these types of detailed breakdowns that help make “techys” like me take notice.

Thank you!

On an interesting side note, I was surprised that your article didn’t send a pingback to my blog. Do you have them turned off? It could be that my pingbacks aren’t working though.

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2 Ralph May 22, 2008 at 11:09 am

Erk, I forgot to mention I can’t see the poll. :-/

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3 Mark @ TheLocoMono May 23, 2008 at 7:43 pm

“focus my bidding on specific types of loans that would fit into my risk tolerance”

I could not have said it better myself. All unsecured loans carries an inherent risk. While I do not have as many loans as you do, I do have to agree with you on setting limits. For myself, I narrow my search to those who have DTI of 40 percent or less. It is interesting what kinds of loans are out there with those who have 40 percent or less versus those who have 50 percent or less.

Great post.

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4 Mark @ TheLocoMono May 23, 2008 at 7:45 pm

BTW, I find it interesting that the one loan you have that is 1 month late is an A credit grade.

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5 passivefamilyincome May 27, 2008 at 1:00 pm

Mark – Thanks for the visit to my site. Yes, I have a feeling that the one loan is going to end up defaulting. It has been in collections for almost 4 weeks now. Every week I see the that a payment is in transit and as soon as it gets to Prosper it goes away. I think the person is sending in bad checks or something? Anyways, the principal remaining on the loan is $48.88 and I have earned almost that in interest from other loans, so I guess I will be at break even.

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6 Dawn May 27, 2008 at 6:36 pm

Thank you so much for this article! I found your comments in another blog on Prosper and thought I would come over and read what you had to say. I had never heard of them before. I appreciate you giving the good and bad sides of this program and will have to look into it for myself.

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7 passivefamilyincome May 29, 2008 at 7:18 am

Ralph – Thanks for the feedback about the poll and the pingbacks. I thought I had them working but who knows. I am still a blog virgin I guess.

Dawn – Thanks for the visit to my site and good luck with your blog. It appears that you have a plan and clear goals set to avoid a possible foreclosure on your home. I look forward to visiting your site!

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